[TPR] Riddle me this... noise, shocks and weirdness

Sun Mar 27 06:50:52 PDT 2011

Rowdy,

Thank you, but I think I'll pass on the Telacars.  I have two sets  
already and they both seem to exhibit similar problems.  Not saying  
yours would, but there may be a good chance at this point.  Though if  
they were still bouncy when you took them off and weren't making any  
noise, I'd go for it.  It would be cheaper and probably easier to send  
without the springs if it's no trouble and you decide to do that.

Asa Jay

Quoting bob Radefeld <bob at radefeld.com>:

> Dang, Asa. Hate to hear that news. :o((  I'll check today & see if I've
> still got the original Telecars that I replaced several years ago off of my
> car. I had taken the spacers out of them & they were working fine at the
> time but I decided a good winter project would be to replace them & all my
> suspension bushings at the same time so that's what I did. If I kept
> them(CRS?) I'll be happy to give them to you..........I'll check today & let
> you know!
>
> Rowdy Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:44 PM, David in Durango <adin at frontier.net> wrote:
>
>> First thing, disconnect (one at a time) the shock from one end.  You should
>> be able to find the source of your problems.
>> after that, it only takes money . . .
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> David
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
>> To: <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:14 PM
>> Subject: [TPR] Riddle me this... noise, shocks and weirdness
>>
>>
>> > First day of Autocross was today.  Test & Tune, practice and blow the
>> > cobwebs away in the head.
>> >
>> > So I know the Pantera needs a new alignment, now I know it even more.
>> > But that's not the real concern here.  Some of you may recall I was
>> > chasing an interesting clunk in my front end a while ago.  Well, it's
>> > never really gone away.
>> >
>> > The steering rack bushing has been replaced, and it sure feels solid.
>> > All bushings and ball joints have been replaced in the a-arms.  Now here
>> > are the interesting parts.
>> >
>> > When I visited Dennis Quella week before last, I walked through all this
>> > with him,  Then he asked if I had original shocks on the car, which I
>> > do.  He then mentioned there are some internal "bits" (as Mike Drew
>> > would say) that "break" if the suspension is left hanging on the
>> > shocks.  This is the position most of our cars are in when we are doing
>> > a lot of work on them for extended periods of time.  (listening Frank)
>> > I tell him I have original Telecars on the Pantera.  He says he can't be
>> > sure, but I might want to check that out as a source.
>> >
>> > Fast forward to today.  About my fourth run on the course today, I start
>> > hearing a nasty thunk anytime I radically change direction, like in a
>> > slalom.  I'm starting to get worried now.  Did I break an a-arm tab?
>> > Did I break a sway bar mount?  What!  (yea.. it's driving me crazy)
>> >
>> > I get home and just got back from inspecting the front end.  Wouldn't
>> > you know, everything looks -solid-.  But wait for it...
>> >
>> > I push down on the front bumper and... nothing.  No movement.  So I pull
>> > -up- on the bumper and get about three inches... and it -stays-.  I then
>> > do the hip hula with the front fender and can't get any weird noises.  I
>> > push the bumper down... it goes about three inches and stays.  I do the
>> > hip hula on the fender and get all kinds of nasty noises... apparently
>> > from the shocks?
>> >
>> > Okay, so I'm Mr. poor boy here, yea yea... you've all heard that sad
>> > story.  A kind soul sold me what they thought were Konis, which weren't,
>> > so I subsequently sold them because I couldn't get them rebuilt in the
>> > states (turned out to be a foreign brand).  So then some kind soul sent
>> > me a set of "practically brand new" Telecars, which looked in worse
>> > shape than those already on my car.  Swapping a couple of them didn't
>> > seem to make the noise go away and I really can't say I'd prefer
>> > swapping another set of Telecars.
>> >
>> > <sigh>
>> > so..... does anyone out there have a set of known good shocks they'd be
>> > willing to "loan" me for about a month so I can determine if this is
>> > really the root problem or not?  I'm sure you can probably get them
>> > packed in a Large Priority Mail Flat Rate box (it's how I shipped those
>> > off brand shocks).  I  hate to beg.  If I had more Pantera people close
>> > by, it probably wouldn't come to this.
>> >
>> > More highlights from today...
>> > - I was the first person to "spin" on the course today, it was actually
>> > a bit of fun even though I took out a few
>> > cones.
>> > - I totally -ate- a cone on exiting a bus-stop gate... so much so that I
>> > brought it all the way back to grid.  On the upside... the license plate
>> > is much more aerodynamic now.  :)
>> > - The car ran -great-!  The bit of tuning I did late last summer seems
>> > to have made runs a lot smoother.
>> > - The new graphics look awesome.  Photos to come later.
>> >
>> > Alright, who wants to loan me a set of shocks?
>> >
>> > Asa Jay
>> >
>> > --
>> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> > &  Shelley Marie
>> > Spokane, WA
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