[TPR] MAD DAWG ON A RANT - WOOF Re: 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of American Jobs
Mad Dog Antenucci
teampantera at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 2 22:31:19 PST 2011
The attached photo shows two Indian engineers (both electrical), one Pakistani
land surveyor, one Indonesian quantity surveyor, one QA engineer from
Bangladesh, and 4 Fillipino engineers (2 civil, 1 mechanical, 1 tunnel)....and
then one yankee mutt at the end of the table who can't do anything....so we got
some muslims, some hindu's and some christians and someone who no one can figure
out what the hell he knows..... All these guys are all educated senior
engineers who have been around a long time.
They have all spent most of their married or single lives living and working
overseas away from home in Saudi, Iraq, Africa, Asia, or one of the other Gulf
states working for American or European owned engineering firms. I like to get
these guys to think outside the box occasionally by asking them stoopid mad dawg
loyalty questions like,
"Who is the best American boss you have ever had?'.....usually they will look
at one another for some help and don't know what to say except this one time I
asked that question and one of the Fillipino's immediately said,
"who is paying for dinner Mr. Dennis?".....;-]>
Yea, he got the bill.
Mad Dawg Antenucci
Team Pantera Racing
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
www.teampanteraracing.com
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From: John Bentley <gndplne at yahoo.com>
To: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com; Mad Dog
Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 10:23:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TPR] MAD DAWG ON A RANT - WOOF Re: 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing
of American Jobs
Having worked with a lot of Indian engineers, I can tell you all the secret
here. They are book-smart people that have no practical hands-on experience of
anything at all. They are good when operating a keyboard, but have no clue as
to which end of a screwdriver to hold. The physical world is out of their
touch. They can do an initial "paper" design, but unfortunately the real world
is not digital and any design needs an occational tweak to operate properly.
After one particular sightseeing flight over San Francisco with a visiting
engineer, when we returned to my hanger I asked him if he did any work on
planes, cars, etc. and his answer was "We don't do any tinkering like
that"....... There you have it, for anything that does not involve a keyboard
entry, there will be problems (at least in my experience).
Additionally they still live by the Caste system where you are placed in society
by your family history, not by your abilities. Not a good combination. I have
worked with engineers from percieved higher Castes that were not in a position
suitable to their talents.
I do have some good friends that are Indian, but I can think of only one that
has any mechanical aptitude at all.
JB
--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [TPR] MAD DAWG ON A RANT - WOOF Re: 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of
>American Jobs
>To: "Brian Ward" <brian at trinityarmco.com>, tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 7:29 PM
>
>
>Now you got me started.....and I have not had coffee yet.
>
>
>Who was it that said,
>
>
>"We have nothing to fear but fear itself"...I mean besides me? ;-]>
>
>
>Look, I work with educated so called professional engineers in construction and
>IT technician's who are Indians and I don't think we have much to worry about
>there. I am allot more concerned by Obama or the lack of jobs for Americans,
>and the U.S. deficit then I am of being replaced by Indians.
>
>
>We just kick their Indian asses on every quantitative or production and quality
>issue I have ever had to be a part of. And that does not even address their
>lack of independent thinking or their inability to make decisions on the go
>unless someone is there wiping their ass they are just not programmed in real
>life terms to make decisions on their own without close supervision....
>
>
>When I look at our kick ass engineers like JB, MikeT, Kirby, Dick, AJ to just
>name a few of our guys who also like to GO FAST who are not only GREAT
>engineers but GREAT leaders who can also design it, built it, run it, construct
>it AND fix it....does anyone really believe there are Indians who can do what
>these guys do?
>Getthefokouttahere!
>
>
>The Indian engineer or contractor will have their perspective asses handed to
>them in any kind of work environment or competition where they are going head to
>head with Americans or Europeans.
>
>
>On job sites overseas we have even had to mix nationalities on construction and
>engineering teams because a crew of all Filippino's as an example doing the same
>scheduled scope of work as Indians will just kick the Indians asses in every
>aspect of the work and will finish it on time and under budget and then ask you
>for more work.
>
>
>When I talk to our IT guys who are American or European they are are just so far
>and ahead of any of the Indian engineers I have had to deal with professionally
>I really don't have time to wait days or weeks for an answer to a technical
>question which is what it is going to take when I talk to an Indian engineer.
>
>
>I could be wrong here but again I don't think we have much to worry about.....
>We make great products and given the same opportunity to sell our products or
>services ANYWHERE in the word (you reading this President Obama) we will kick
>ass except maybe for how well we run CALL CENTERS for American Express although
>don't get me started on calls to Customer Service. When I hear,
>"Hello this is Billy, how can I help you?"....and he sounds like the guy running
>the 7-11 store near your house you gotta wonder, 'hey, maybe the dawg is right
>this time' ...You KNOW I am
> right. ;-]>
>
>
>I think the best thing we can do is continue to kick ass. And speaking of
>kicking asses I got a great letter from Rich Hoppe the other day who many of you
>know telling me about his new race engine but I was touched by his hiring of a
>fellow Marine veteran he hired at his business.
>
>
>Now Rich (like the "Hawk") should both be telling us soon about their killer new
>race engine in their Pantera's but my point of rambling on like this is so allot
>of you who were hit hard in construction or manufacturing or engineering in 2009
>or 2010 and had to make some difficult decisions and adjustments in your life
>know things are gonna get better.........hell probably every one of YOU reading
>this has had their jobs, careers, or retirement investments hit hard or turned
>upside down by this recession in the last couple years.
>
>
>But in this particular case I am mentioning Rich because I know he needed to
>hire someone for his company and he hired a vet like you Brian. I am not saying
>we shouldn't hire the most qualified person for the job but I am saying young
>guys like you Brian have earned it. And many of us old dogs are or will be in a
>position to do that in the new year so I hope all of you will who can.
>
>
>Personally I am more interested in kicking the ass of any Wall Street banker or
>mortgage lender or underwriter I can find then I am any poor Indian trying to
>make a buck or a ruple.
>
>
>Okay, you can take that to the bank.... ;Aren't you sorry you even answered my
>email Grasshopper? -]>
>
>Mad Dawg Antenucci - still trying to close escrow
>Team Pantera Racing
>The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
>www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
>To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 12:09:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [TPR] 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of American Jobs
>
>
>MD,
>
>I knew it was a sarcastic spoof but the possibility is real. Today, more and
>more people work for call centers for all types of business. Even engineering
>firms contract highly technical design work to home based freelancers as I did
>years ago. It is easy to place a job hired by one at home in the hands of less
>payed third world individuals. It is more a matter of morals. Most of your
>computer scams and attacks come from highly knowledgeable people in those
>countries. They are good at what they do and far from the reach of US law. The
>internet and will of someone to do this is very possible. My eyes are wide ass
>open.
>
>
>Happy New Year J
>Grasshopper
>
>From:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
>[mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
>Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:39 AM
>To: Brian Ward; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Subject: Re: [TPR] 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of American Jobs
>
>Yea, they are kidding.....watch it again.....its a slam with a big dose of
>sarcasm. ;-)>
>
>Mad Dawg Antenucci
>Team Pantera Racing
>The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
>www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
________________________________
>From:Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
>To: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>; tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 3:26:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [TPR] 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of American Jobs
>You have got to be kidding…. Americans are already lazy and getting lazier by
>each hand out… Oh, and when I say Americans, I am not referring to the honest
>hardworking minority. I should probably have a better name for them but
>unfortunately they were born on my soil….
>
>Caio
>Red Blooded American Grasshopper
>
>From:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com
>[mailto:tpr-bounces at teampanteraracing.com] On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
>Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 12:47 PM
>To: tpr at teampanteraracing.com
>Subject: [TPR] 2011 Solutions to Outsourcing of American Jobs
>
>Happy New Year one more time.
>Watch both episodes in the onion. Right now I am thinking about setting up an
>office in Bangladesh or Republic of Congo....very talented yet low overhead.
>Women, booze and operating costs all very low.
>
>Mad Dawg Antenucci
>Team Pantera Racing
>The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
>www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
>The next step in out sourcing - This is wonderful, I need to start looking into
>this soon..
>
>
>http://www.theonion.com/content/video/more_american_workers_outsourcing
>
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